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[Elchingon]

Hello, I wanted to say hello and share an observation regarding a recent change.

Today I logged into the game and noticed that guards were added to Fafurion. In my opinion, this is a serious issue. I'm not against having guards in certain areas to help new players farm and gear up, but they're currently being poorly implemented, and the situation is getting out of hand.

Today, we have guards in Kariks, SoA, and Fafurion, which are precisely the top farming areas. Meanwhile, lower-level areas don't even have this protection. Honestly, it feels absurd that a large part of the map is covered with guards, with a few exceptions like Oren or some areas of Heine.

If the idea is to protect new players, wouldn't it make more sense to protect Oren and Heine, freeing up the top areas? Currently, the opposite is happening.

Furthermore, there's already a system that punishes PK (Player Killing) with excessive karma and slow recovery, which ends up being frustrating. Adding to this, the game becomes less rewarding: you invest time in gearing up to farm in top zones, only to end up competing against players who use multiple characters and saturate the spots, completely eliminating the playable area.

It's unclear what the intention behind these measures is. From my perspective, and that of several in my clan, this is negatively impacting the server. Decisions are being made that favor zone saturation instead of encouraging PvP or healthy competition.

In the last month, a sharp decline has already been noticeable: PvP in TW is practically dead, sieges are too, and with these changes, even PvP/PK in farming zones is being eliminated.

This is especially concerning considering that safe farming zones like Chromatic or Isle already exist, where you can progress without risk.

That's why the question arises: what's the next step? Remove the flag in Raid Boss and add guards as well? Because it's practically the only thing missing to completely ruin the experience.

 

[Monika33]

totally agree

 

[biestbars]

No one is against PvP, no one is against TW, Castle Siege, Oly, etc.—all of that is actually great. But that’s not what you want. You PKers just want to take away other players’ ability to gear up properly. You, who can play 24/7, are ruining the fun for everyone else here.

Who is stopping you from doing PvP, TW, Oly, Castle Siege, duels, and so on? No one. The only thing happening is that PK is being monitored more strictly.

You and your friends (people like you) are exactly the ones destroying the server. You give normal players (those with jobs, families, etc.) no chance because you constantly PK AFK players.

Do you want more TW, Oly, Castle Siege? Then stop PKing. We (the normal players) choose servers with autofarm so that we can eventually participate in Oly, TW, etc. But the PK clowns either don’t understand that—or just pretend not to.

You are the reason the server is heading toward being empty. And stop saying Lineage 2 is a PK game. Maybe that was true 20 years ago.

If you really want the server to grow and have active TW, Oly, Castle Siege, etc., then stop PKing and give people a chance to level their characters and farm gear

 

[Elchingon]

No one is against PvP, no one is against TW, Castle Siege, Oly, etc.—all of that is actually great. But that’s not what you want. You PKers just want to take away other players’ ability to gear up properly. You, who can play 24/7, are ruining the fun for everyone else here.

Who is stopping you from doing PvP, TW, Oly, Castle Siege, duels, and so on? No one. The only thing happening is that PK is being monitored more strictly.

You and your friends (people like you) are exactly the ones destroying the server. You give normal players (those with jobs, families, etc.) no chance because you constantly PK AFK players.

Do you want more TW, Oly, Castle Siege? Then stop PKing. We (the normal players) choose servers with autofarm so that we can eventually participate in Oly, TW, etc. But the PK clowns either don’t understand that—or just pretend not to.

You are the reason the server is heading toward being empty. And stop saying Lineage 2 is a PK game. Maybe that was true 20 years ago.

If you really want the server to grow and have active TW, Oly, Castle Siege, etc., then stop PKing and give people a chance to level their characters and farm gear

How much time do they need? I've been playing for a month, and I'm maxed out. The thing is, PvP is gone, they have medium-level areas for farming peacefully. The only thing that makes me think they're selling in-game items for money; there's no other explanation.

 

[QuetzaL]

Yo apoyo la opinión de CHINGON, en esas zonas no son necesarios los guardias. Esta es una de las maneras más decentes que puede hallar el admin de decir que ya no se quiere hacer cargo de axis y que nos pasemos al nuevo servidor. Para equiparse no se necesita demasiado tiempo y esas zonas eran libre albedrío de quién estuviera ahí te pones pk y el arquero te mata y se cae el equipamiento. A quien se está protegiendo?

 

[biestbars]

How much time do they need? I've been playing for a month, and I'm maxed out. The thing is, PvP is gone, they have medium-level areas for farming peacefully. The only thing that makes me think they're selling in-game items for money; there's no other explanation.

How much time do you think they need? Is it only about reaching max level for you? How long do you think it takes to get 10–15 characters to the highest level?

That means full Elegia on all of them, everything +16, boss jewelry +16, and the best augments. With prices like these, that takes 1–2 years, maybe.

And why so many characters? Well, how else are you supposed to find out which one suits you best? Only by trying several.

Or do you think I’m going into PvP with a Dynasty set against someone who has full Elegia and +16 boss jewelry?

Tell me—are you just pretending, or do you really not get it?

 

[Elchingon]

How much time do you think they need? Is it only about reaching max level for you? How long do you think it takes to get 10–15 characters to the highest level?

That means full Elegia on all of them, everything +16, boss jewelry +16, and the best augments. With prices like these, that takes 1–2 years, maybe.

And why so many characters? Well, how else are you supposed to find out which one suits you best? Only by trying several.

Or do you think I’m going into PvP with a Dynasty set against someone who has full Elegia and +16 boss jewelry?

Tell me—are you just pretending, or do you really not get it?

Two years to equip one character? It's a mid server, I think you're confusing it with another server, the rates here aren't x1.

 

[biestbars]

Two years to equip one character? It's a mid server, I think you're confusing it with another server, the rates here aren't x1.

Please read more carefully. I said: How long do you think it takes to get 10–15 characters to the highest level?
Even for one character, a month isn’t enough—unless you donate a few thousand euros for it

 

[Bernel]

This server is designed for people who leave their PCs on and walk away in other words, people who don't play!
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME, DON'T PLAY AT ALL!
They ruined the server with no pvp and no pk

 

[biestbars]

El server esta exactamente hecho para gente que deja la pc prendida y se va, dicho de otro modo gente que no juega !
SI NO TIENEN TIEMPO DIRECTAMENTE NO JUEGUEN !
Destruyeron el server sin pvp sin pk

What do you even want here—on an AFK farm server? Why don’t you go play on a server without AFK? There you can spend your whole life grinding for virtual items.

I just want to play normally and relaxed on the weekend. I don’t want this to be a 24/7 life commitment. And this server offers exactly the best of everything—AFK farming.

I also want PvP, Oly, TW, etc., but I simply don’t have the time for 24/7 play. You super-active players—why are you even here? Just go and play actively on a server without AFK farming

 

[Bernel]

This server isn't x1000, so it's for people with time. If you don't have time, go complain somewhere else, it's easy bro...

What do you even want here—on an AFK farm server? Why don’t you go play on a server without AFK? There you can spend your whole life grinding for virtual items.

I just want to play normally and relaxed on the weekend. I don’t want this to be a 24/7 life commitment. And this server offers exactly the best of everything—AFK farming.

I also want PvP, Oly, TW, etc., but I simply don’t have the time for 24/7 play. You super-active players—why are you even here? Just go and play actively on a server without AFK farming

 

[biestbars]

This server isn't x1000, so it's for people with time. If you don't have time, go complain somewhere else, it's easy bro...

Lol, now you’re the ones whining about these guards. You’re complaining now—why, bro? I can say the exact same thing: if you don’t like it, then go somewhere else

This whole discussion wouldn’t even exist if the PK clowns would just leave people alone. Why are the guards here in the first place? A server with guards is already an ‘anti-PK server.’ So you don’t need to try to convince me otherwise.

If the admin removes the guards, I’d like to see how many players are still here after 2–3 months. In the end, only a small bunch of useless PKers would remain—and they would eventually leave the server too

 

[Bernel]

Lol, now you’re the ones whining about these guards. You’re complaining now—why, bro? I can say the exact same thing: if you don’t like it, then go somewhere else

This whole discussion wouldn’t even exist if the PK clowns would just leave people alone. Why are the guards here in the first place? A server with guards is already an ‘anti-PK server.’ So you don’t need to try to convince me otherwise.

If the admin removes the guards, I’d like to see how many players are still here after 2–3 months. In the end, only a small bunch of useless PKers would remain—and they would eventually leave the server too

The server had way more people before the guards were added. Now there are people like you complaining and asking for more farming spots because of the number of bots (people who don't have time to play). It's simple, bro...

 

[biestbars]

The server had way more people before the guards were added. Now there are people like you complaining and asking for more farming spots because of the number of bots (people who don't have time to play). It's simple, bro...

What are you even talking about? Oh right—the server had more players? You only believe that yourself. If you mean the launch phase (when the server just went online), that doesn’t count. Every new server has more players at the beginning, but in the end only those who really want to play stay.

And why do you think the admin adds guards if, according to your logic, it harms the server? More players = more money. To keep a server alive nowadays and make some profit, you don’t need a toxic community (PK junkies). You need players who can and want to play here long-term—players who welcome newcomers and help them progress.

But what you’re doing is just trying to play as a 20-man group and keep everything for yourselves.

I’ve been playing L2 since 2006 and have tried around 50 ±15 servers in that time. I know what I’m talking about. A PK-heavy server always ends up heading toward death or an inevitable wipe

 

[Bernel]

What are you even talking about? Oh right—the server had more players? You only believe that yourself. If you mean the launch phase (when the server just went online), that doesn’t count. Every new server has more players at the beginning, but in the end only those who really want to play stay.

And why do you think the admin adds guards if, according to your logic, it harms the server? More players = more money. To keep a server alive nowadays and make some profit, you don’t need a toxic community (PK junkies). You need players who can and want to play here long-term—players who welcome newcomers and help them progress.

But what you’re doing is just trying to play as a 20-man group and keep everything for yourselves.

I’ve been playing L2 since 2006 and have tried around 50 ±15 servers in that time. I know what I’m talking about. A PK-heavy server always ends up heading toward death or an inevitable wipe

I'm not talking about the launch phase. This server has been around for years, and anyone who played it knows there were many more people before the guards were added.

Again, I'm not talking about the launch phase. All servers have a lot of people at the beginning. In this case, many left when the guards were added. The guards were initially placed in SoA and on chromatic, and I could tell you even more about the history of Axis since you seem new here.
Being toxic isn't the same as being a pk. You're completely confused. Being a pk is part of the game; otherwise, it wouldn't exist. Being sensitive about getting killed in a game doesn't mean you're toxic. Don't expect us to go to the Church of Aden and hold a mass.

If you play on autofarm, it doesn't consider you a player; it considers you a bot on autofarm occupying a space for those of us who actually play . I've also been playing L2 since 2006, and I know what I'm talking about because I've been playing Axis much longer than you, and it's heading for death with autofarming bots. That's why you're asking for more spots because you can't farm, right? Well, the clearing used to happen when there weren't any guards. The only thing left for you to ask for is a spot with guards just for you, and for them to remove the ability to attack other people since that would make the server toxic, come on bro...

 

[biestbars]

I'm not talking about the launch phase. This server has been around for years, and anyone who played it knows there were many more people before the guards were added.

Again, I'm not talking about the launch phase. All servers have a lot of people at the beginning. In this case, many left when the guards were added. The guards were initially placed in SoA and on chromatic, and I could tell you even more about the history of Axis since you seem new here.
Being toxic isn't the same as being a pk. You're completely confused. Being a pk is part of the game; otherwise, it wouldn't exist. Being sensitive about getting killed in a game doesn't mean you're toxic. Don't expect us to go to the Church of Aden and hold a mass.

If you play on autofarm, it doesn't consider you a player; it considers you a bot on autofarm occupying a space for those of us who actually play . I've also been playing L2 since 2006, and I know what I'm talking about because I've been playing Axis much longer than you, and it's heading for death with autofarming bots. That's why you're asking for more spots because you can't farm, right? Well, the clearing used to happen when there weren't any guards. The only thing left for you to ask for is a spot with guards just for you, and for them to remove the ability to attack other people since that would make the server toxic, come on bro...

Wake up already—what you’re asking for is something hardly anyone wants to play. No one is going to play actively 24/7, smashing their keyboard all day. It’s 2026. And it’s a good thing the admin understands that you can’t make money with a dying group of nostalgic players who spend their whole lives grinding nonstop.

And PK is toxic. Disrupting other players’ gameplay is toxic. No one wants to get PK’d—it’s frustrating because it just wastes your time. Sure, PK is part of the game, I admit that. But this kind of gameplay doesn’t bring in new players in the long run. This isn’t Call of Duty, and it never was.

Do you know why NCS sold the rights for Europe and Russia? Do you know what Lineage 2 has become because of all this PK? How much money did L2 make in the past—and how much does it make now? Go find the answers to those questions.

You can try to convince the admin to remove the guards—then the 10–15 of you can have the entire server to yourselves

 

[Elchingon]

Wake up already—what you’re asking for is something hardly anyone wants to play. No one is going to play actively 24/7, smashing their keyboard all day. It’s 2026. And it’s a good thing the admin understands that you can’t make money with a dying group of nostalgic players who spend their whole lives grinding nonstop.

And PK is toxic. Disrupting other players’ gameplay is toxic. No one wants to get PK’d—it’s frustrating because it just wastes your time. Sure, PK is part of the game, I admit that. But this kind of gameplay doesn’t bring in new players in the long run. This isn’t Call of Duty, and it never was.

Do you know why NCS sold the rights for Europe and Russia? Do you know what Lineage 2 has become because of all this PK? How much money did L2 make in the past—and how much does it make now? Go find the answers to those questions.

You can try to convince the admin to remove the guards—then the 10–15 of you can have the entire server to yourselves

Look, this is Lineage II. The PvP and PK system isn't optional; it's a core part of the game. If someone doesn't have the time or doesn't want to deal with it, there are servers with a million players or games focused solely on farming. But this isn't one of those games.

Here, the objective has always been the same: to fight for spots, for castles, for flags, for raids. That's the essence of the game. So the question is simple: if you don't want to die or compete, what are you doing playing L2?

I perfectly remember what it was like before the guards: four clans constantly fighting. Guards were implemented in Kariks and SoA, and two clans immediately disappeared. Today, the reality is even worse: only one dominant clan remains, and nobody challenges them.

How long have those guards been around? Two years? And they still need the GM to act as a babysitter? It's time to stop this.

Stop making decisions based on whining. On the new server, even in the beta, the same problems are already appearing: guards from the start. Two clans that went to test it have already decided not to stay for the exact same reason.

So, what's the idea? Turn everything into a city where PvP and PK are impossible? Remove the Raid Boss flag and let whoever deals the most damage win?

That's unfeasible. But filling the entire map with guards is just as unfeasible.

The numbers speak for themselves: a month ago there were around 1500 online characters (bots or not, it doesn't matter, they were there). Today there are barely 1000. The trend is obvious.